Watching the Untrusted Implode

Stained glass window, Ightham Mote, Kent, England

Stained glass window, Ightham Mote, Kent, England

Welcome to The Real Untrusted

for a brief introduction to this site – read here

“The citadel of established practice seldom falls to the polite knock of a good idea. It may however yield to a long siege, a pre-emptive strike, a wooden horse or a cunning alliance.” 


Backtothepoint posts about the EU’s  £1.7bn demand:

Still if the UK wants to leave, it should take care not to let the door hit it in the jacksie as it flounces. As opposed to the Eurocrats who like to have the UK in the Union as a force for neoliberalism, most of the people I know here in France either couldn’t care less if it went or think it would be a good thing to get rid of a chronic troublemaker.

Clearly the English hating, trouble making lover BTTP is still smarting about every French failure from Agincourt on, but if he thinks the rest of Europe is going to be sympathetic to its crowing cockerel, he needs to explain the contempt in which its social democratic President is held across the union and in his adopted homeland.


Is Calamityjane123 / BeautifulBurnout seeking to justify the killing of the Canadian security personnel?


MontanaWildhack posts:

For some reason, many people who consider themselves left-leaning politically seem to think that anti-American bigotry is somehow acceptable. It boggles my mind that people can’t see the contradiction in that.

The same MontanaWildhack who posted on CiF

Good Americans don’t question the essential superiority of America. Many Americans boast that they have no desire to even travel to another country. They believe that it is a sign of patriotism to wallow in ignorance of the rest of the world. Not all Good Americans are quite that patriotic. Some are open to the possibility that there might be other places in the world that are nice to visit. Really open-minded Good Americans think that, if one is quite adventurous, one might even live in another country for a year or two.

Anti-American bigotry anyone?


A new set of photographs here, all of which have been posted before but they’re now together in one place.


 Today’s Music

As from today – (sometime in early 2013) “A Change is gonna Come” and hence the track which is from almost 500, vaguely described as pop and rock, on my MP4 player that I use mainly when I’m running at the gym or outdoors, or when I’m doing things I rather not like ironing clothes, cleaning and so on. This one by coincidence comes top of the list when arranged in alphabetical order. Of course I’ll intersperse them with some great jazz and classical music.

Feats Don’t Fail Me Now – Little Feat

Yesterday’s music

Mozart – Emma Kirkby – Exsultate Jubilate

Father and Son – Cat Stevens




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  1. brusselsexpats

     /  October 31, 2014

    Just dropping by to wish all a good weekend and hope you don’t get bothered too much by trick-or-treaters.

    Staff in some clothing stores are wearing Halloween costumes today in downtown Brussels.

    • Hi Bruss – a good weekend to you too. Don’t know if I’ll get bothered by kids tonight, it can be a nuisance. I’ve been staying in a B&B all week whilst work is done on my house; I considered staying in my home tonight though there’s the small matter of not having a toilet. I am rather nervous staying in strange places and always feel vulnerable but I would imagine the trick-or-treaters wouldn’t be able to access the B&B easily.

      I’ve been coming back to feed Ginger and she keeps wanting to eat: so long as she does I’ll not deny her food or water: dying of thirst or starvation is a terrible death. I do wonder how long she can go on like this – she seems to be desperately clinging to life. The vet gave me an appointment for Monday which is very optimistic but he wanted to be positive for my sake I think. I shall have to see how Ginger gets on over the weekend.

  2. brusselsexpats

     /  October 29, 2014

    Morning all and thanks for the update on China Jim.

    Revolutions are often decades, if not centuries in the making, so we may be seeing the first shoots of a rebellion that will spread like wildfire at some point in the future.

    Talking of social unrest, have the usual suspects on YTU lost their cyber voices re the situation in Ukraine – because it’s obvious now, to even the dimmest Communist, that the country is pro-Western and has proven it via the ballot box.

    I’m just waiting for Pointy and his side-kick the People’s Barrister to twist themselves into a convoluted argument that really it’s the fascists who have voted en masse for the pro-Western politicians and fiddled the elections and that the poor old Commies woz robbed.

    Or maybe they’ll just drink away their sorrows. Sometimes you do get a good laugh with the YTU.

    Have a good day all.

  3. Good morning all.

    I watched the documentary on the death of Peter Connelly and the ensuing political ruckus. It still occurs to me that Sharon Shoesmith doesn’t want to take responsibility: social services are the lead agency in child care and the head of child services is ultimately the one who bears responsibility and she must’ve known this when she took the job. Of course there were other agencies involved, there always are, but they are not the lead agency. It really doesn’t matter that the 60 contacts with Peter and his family were not all by social services: the fact that a child had so many official contacts in such a short time and he died is still shocking.

    I also don’t agree with Shoesmith when she repeatedly said that the issue was about familial child homicide. It’s about child murder and about how those paid to protect children failed this child. There’s no reason why it can’t be about both and does she really think the public are not going to react when hearing of this list of injuries? Social workers and others are always keen to say they’re public servants and they act not out of money but out of caring: so they have to accept that being a public servant means being accountable to that public.

    • Paul

       /  October 28, 2014

      Hi desde

      Shoesmith isn’t entirely to blame for the failure to save Peter Connelley and i wasn’t impressed with Ed Balls kneejerk role in getting her sacked.However her failure to take any responsibility for what happened and the fact she’s casting herself in the role of ”victim” tells me she’s not fit to work in any role which involves the care of either children or adults.And she’s only got herself for the fact that no-one will employ her.

    • Hi Paul

      I think there was scapegoating by The Sun newspaper along with others of some of the doctors and social services involved, however the documentary had it’s fair share of one-sidedness and things left out. It still also remains that the head of the lead agency has to take the fall – that’s why they are paid so much money and have status. My local children’s social services got a really bad report some years back, though there was nothing as bad as the Connelly case, and the Head immediately resigned. Frankly, that’s what’s expected.

      Maria Ward said last night that she’d seen Peter run to his mum and be consoled by her; that may be true on some occasions but his natural father and paternal grandmother both witnessed extremely worrying behaviour and the court seemed to accept them as truthful. Peter stayed with them and slept in bed with them at night and he cried, whinged and moaned constantly – that is consistent with him being in pain from his injuries. This was during the time he had contact with various agencies and it seems impossible that they also did not witness this; such a young child could not hide his pain. Plus, staff at the school where the older siblings went witnessed the mother hit one of them in full view. This must surely have been passed on to social services for all these parties were aware of the risk.

      The question of whether Peter had sustained a broken back when he was examined by the doctor at hospital has not been ascertained one way or the other and probably never will be. But he already had numerous injuries and it seems bizarre these weren’t noticed and that alarm bells didn’t ring. I found the programme rather frustrating as the only conclusion was, ‘we all failed’ which is already known.

      Finally, I have to say again that, as one of those who has had social services come down on them like a ton of bricks this does strike a sour note. For people like myself who have been subjected to detention on the grounds (unproven) of being dangerous to others, it has happened with lightning speed: quite literally, it happens so fast you don’t really know what’s happening to you and social workers and doctors can move damn fast when they want to. They don’t even have to tell you what you’re supposed to have done and you have no right to have access to that information: any third party complaints can be kept entirely confidential. Plus, there is no legal redress to challenge serious allegations which are recorded on file. Yet these occasions are when the alleged victims are all adults. Compare that to the tiptoeing around with abusive parents, giving them every chance, letting them have a lawyer etc when the potential victim is a totally helpless toddler. We cannot fail to make those comparisons and feel bitter about it. Moreover, just to make it worse, some of us were the real victims and if there’d been such swift and harsh justice meted out to our tormenters when we were children we would never have suffered so much. Would that abusers like my mother could have felt the heavyhandedness of social workers and doctors. But all the heavy action is against us. Difficult to live with.

  4. JimPress

     /  October 28, 2014

    Hi Paul (if you’re still around), a couple of weeks ago you were asking about China’s stance on religion and musing on greater freedoms in HK and Macau.

    There is a substantial Christian presence in the Occupy movement with both Benny Tai and Joshua Wong (the school students leader) evangelists. If Lester Shum and Alex Chow, the university student leaders, are Christians then I doubt they’re particularly devout as the pair of them have very entertainingly camped it up in response to a gay porn fantasy website devoted to their supposed passionate ‘bromance'; it was triggered by a photograph of them gazing lovingly at one another on a platform while Joshua Wong was droning away into a microphone. At the main Admiralty site of the protest there’s even a Christian enclave of tents where you’ll regularly see groups with bowed heads clasping hands and praying in front of bamboo crosses. However, the Christians aren’t setting the tone or providing the backbone of the democracy movement.

    Donald Tsang, CY Leung’s predecessor as HK Chief Executive, was a prominent Catholic, and one of the truly bizarre allegations against him that’s currently being investigated by ICAC (the Independent Commission Against Corruption) is that he offered to block an attempt by Italian investigators to seize financial documents from HK that implicated Berlusconi in return for a personal audience with the Pope! Beijing might not give a toss about the head of Hong Kong going to church every Sunday or taking backhanders from tycoons for favours but they’re certainly not chuffed at the prospect of the guy taking personal orders from feckin Benedict XVI.

    Personally, I’m astounded (worryingly, I’m paid for my ability to read situations like this) at the staying power of the Occupy protest, although possibly not as astounded as the organisers themselves, and it’s fascinating to watch events unfold. What probably isn’t apparent if you’re watching this on TV six thousand miles away is how fluffy the clashes have been. Despite the CS on the first weekend and the gallons of pepper spray used there haven’t been any serious injuries to either protesters or police. Another unexpected thing is that the triads have at times joined with as well as attacked the protesters – when the road tunnel was recently blocked there was some real muscle involved that took both the police and student leaders (who tried and failed to stop the action) totally by surprise. The authorities have publicly acknowledged their bafflement at the occasional presence of triads within the protest but I suspect the reason is simple: the chaos suits their interests, as police who would ordinarily be tracking them are otherwise engaged.

    Possibly the most intriguing figure involved in the protests is Jimmy Lai, local media baron and the only tycoon in this city to take an overtly pro-democratic stance. The authorities are so concerned by his influence that they’ve been sniffing around trying to find financial dirt on him (his home was raided by anti-graft police not long before Occupy began) and have used the fat old goons from the DAB to blockade the HQ and printing presses of his Apple Daily newspaper in an attempt to stop distribution. Considering that he could be jailed on fabricated fraud charges or simply suffer the same fate as Kevin Lau* it’s staggeringly brave of him to stay in HK and risk both his wealth and health for the sake of his beliefs. A rich man with principles is a vanishingly rare thing in China.

    *Lau, a pro-democratic former editor of HK newspaper Ming Pao was chopped so badly by triads imported from over the border in Guangdong in February that the ambulance crew who arrived on the scene remarked afterwards that his internal organs were visible due to the depths of cuts to his torso; just prior to the attack he’d been fired from his job and replaced by a pro-China stooge. Being a pro-democratic journalist in HK is becoming an ever more hazardous profession.

    • Hi Jim,

      Most informative and thanks for taking the effort to post it here. Like you I’m surprised how long the protest has lasted although the last report in the Guardian was on October 22 and only a couple of others in the whole of the month.

    • Paul

       /  October 28, 2014

      Thanks for that Jim

    • JimPress

       /  October 29, 2014

      No trouble Bitey, I’d post at CIF but nobody seems remotely interested there. The YTU revolutionaries are more concerned with combatting the twin evils of Muzlamophobia and the filthy Poles who are apparently blighting their neighbourhoods and undercutting their wages.

  5. Paul

     /  October 27, 2014

    Afternoon all

    Love the pictures Sara.Nice one.

  6. Sara

     /  October 26, 2014

    Above Big Sur,” Big Sur, California,

  7. Sara

     /  October 26, 2014

    Kings Valley Clouds,” Mansfield, Victoria, Australia

  8. Sara

     /  October 26, 2014

    catch of the decade Katmai National Park, Alaska, USA

  9. Sara

     /  October 26, 2014

    Sunrise Plaosan Temple,” Plaosan Temple, Yogyakarta, Indonesia

  10. Sara

     /  October 26, 2014

    Arctic Hi-Five, Svalbard, Nature Category

  11. Sara

     /  October 26, 2014

    Some nature entries for the National Geographic photo contest 2014
    “The Iguana’s Cave,” Island of Bonaire, Kralendijk, Dutch Caribbean

    • 101

       /  October 25, 2014

      A strange comment from her – probably made to elicit a response (aka ‘trolling’)

      BTW, has there been any increase in traffic to the site – I left a ’roundabout’ link to here on The Daily Mail website, as of today its still standing (3 days and counting.)

    • Hi 101,

      Not sure you’re right there as I think she has to respond to anyone who she perceives to be in any way anti-Islam, with this being reinforced by her assumption that being anti-Islam is also racist, something she shares with Ally Fogg. Then she has in the past made several childish “violent revolutionary” type posts about barricades and pitchforks.

      As for traffic here for the past 6 days visitor numbers were for the six days from yesterday, 113, 103, 100, 125, 120 and 108. The best day ever was 16 March 2013 with 1277 visitors. I’ve searched for possible reasons for this and the only thing I can come up with it that it coincided with me starting to post again on CiF after a break of 3 months.

      Hope your recovery is still progressing.

    • Good afternoon all.

      It continues to puzzle that criticism of Islam is seen as racism by some. After all, Malcolm X accepted white skinned, blue eyed Muslims and Islam is a very popular religion for converts. It wouldn’t be surprising to learn that more people convert to Islam from Christianity or Judaism or from being atheists than the other way around. Some of the British and American Jihadists in Syria are white Muslims.

    • Hi Desde,

      You’re right and with over a billion and a half Muslim’s worldwide they will be in every racial, ethnic and cultural group. The same is true of Christians with 2.4 billion.

      But the likes of the oh so right culturally superior Ally Fogg and BB/CJ refuse to see that and assume their tiny space in Crawley and Manchester encompasses the entire world.

      Just a bit pathetic really.

  12. brusselsexpats

     /  October 23, 2014

    Afternoon all,

    I love stained glass…..

    Bitey – there are people who use their blogs in a very childish power game “You can’t play in my backyard so there.”

    It’s truly pathetic. As far as I’m concerned they would have to pay me to post on their little cyber empire.

    • Why anyone can be bothered with blogs that are inhabited by chauvinists who’ve wafted in from the 1960s is mysterious.

    • Hi Bru,

      Me too – in fact to look at stained glass is one of the main reasons I go into churches and cathedrals.

  13. Ginger my guinea pig has been ill for quite a while. Originally I noticed weight loss and took her to a vet who was useless as most are with small animals and prescribed stuff that wasn’t much good. Ginger seemed to rally and was eating though never quite 100%. About 12 days ago she looked as if she’d had a stroke, twisted to one side and very thin. I’ve been syringe feeding her for most of that time but she hasn’t improved really and can’t feed herself. She doesn’t give up and when I think she’ll be dead by the morning, she surprises me by still being here. She wants to eat but can’t which is painful to see. Luckily I found I’m quite near a very good vet as far as guinea pigs are concerned and went to him yesterday. He reckons it’s a middle ear infection and that if she’d had proper care at first things could’ve been different but that it may be too late and too much damage done. I’ve got her decent antibiotics and pain relief though.

    Not sure why I’m posting this other than to highlight what useless vets there are – yet another moneymaking racket. Also in tribute to my lovely Ginger who was my first piccy for my avatar on Cif. Although I’d like her to recover sometimes I wish it was all over. Oh, the pain our pets can cause us.

    • brusselsexpats

       /  October 21, 2014

      Afternoon all,

      Sorry to hear about your pet Desde. She is a very pretty guinea pig. I remember her picture well.

    • Sara

       /  October 21, 2014

      Hi Desde, I’m sorry to hear about Ginger being so poorly and hope the anti biotics works, there’s still a chance they can, in the meantime she is warm and safe and has good pain relief.

      I agree 100 percent about vets & what money making rackets they run, some are truly awful,

  14. Just to let you know that there are some fraudsters ringing people up and pretending to be from Microsoft and trying to get personal information. A friend emailed yesterday to tell me this had happened to her.

    • Hi Desde,

      Thanks for the warning and sorry to hear about your pet. :(

    • Thanks Bitey. Thinking about it, part of wanting to share the story is that wonderful feeling you get when meeting a professional who really knows what they’re doing, is passionate about their work and pays attention to detail. I felt so reassured to see that vet for my Ginger as he, and his wife, are the best vets for guinea pigs in the country, so I know I’ve done all I can. He was so knowledgeable and thorough, and I know quite a bit by now about treatments for piggy illnesses so I know an expert when I meet one. Similarly, my old neighbour was a brilliant builder, always meticulous in the details and cared that everything was beautifully done. So much better than the slapdash cowboys that are around. I’d love to have a job that I was good at and could become the best I possibly could. Must be very fulfilling. But not at a ‘fulfilment centre’ which is what Tescos call their warehouses these days!

  15. brusselsexpats

     /  October 20, 2014

    Hi Desde – it’s the Stockholm Syndrome on a large scale. A general strike would cause pain but would put a bomb under the politician’s complacent backsides.

  16. Afternoon all.

    Hi Bitey – anyone who has had a run-in with the police or social services, aka the welfare police, will be familiar with the ‘lost files’ scenario. How convenient, important papers on highly sensitive issues just happen to go missing, although other less contentious files kept in the same filing cabinets, are intact and in place. Bedford police once lost the statement that I’d made re my mother’s abuse: when I said I’d make another statement, it turned up.

  17. brusselsexpats

     /  October 19, 2014

    Evening all,

    Desde – the unions are furious because the new centre-right government is protecting the rich and making the poorer members of society pay the price of the economic problems.

    I wouldn’t care but Belgium has suffered far less than other European countries. If the government tried to bring in measures such as the Tories have implemented in the UK,
    the tumbrils would be rolling towards parliament.

    • Hi Bruss – we are incredibly complacent in Britain. Sometimes I wonder why people are putting up with sanctioning of social security benefits, long waits for council housing, low paid jobs and so on. Then it occurs to me, that for anyone under about 45, they don’t really know things any different. I’m 57 and I only started work the year before Thatcher came to power so it’s getting to be a long time since things were different in this country. A distant memory for some, but unrecognisable to the younger ones.

      In that room attendant job I did, the housekeeper should really have been going to her bosses and saying, look my staff can’t do all those rooms in that time and advocate for us to get a bit more money and more time. Instead she kept saying learn tips to go faster, faster – all the time, go faster. Thus corners were cut in cleanliness and health and safety rules breached.

    • 101

       /  October 20, 2014

      ’Instead she kept saying learn tips to go faster, faster – all the time, go faster …and health and safety rules breached.’

      One IT company I worked for has recently started employing new technicians on zero-hour contracts at £20 odd quid an hour (repairing computers at the customs business/home.) The recruit is expected to use his own car (no expenses, no ‘mileage’) travelling all over the North of England.

      When one told his manger it was impossible to get to one job by the ‘allotted’ time – the manger told him to put his f***ing foot down and f*** the speed limits, or f***off.

      These lads are lucky if they clear £100 a week after expenses, and are too scared to quit because the dole will class them as ‘intentionally unemployed’ and sanction them.

    • Morning all.

      101 – that’s just one of many terrible stories all too familiar in today’s Britain. How low we’ve sunk, scared to complain because even the safety net of the dole isn’t there for many. Those who’ve had good educations and are in good jobs have no idea what it’s like. It’s as if there are two Britains, or Englands maybe.

    • Sara

       /  October 21, 2014

      Morning All ‘Sometimes I wonder why people are putting up with sanctioning of social security benefits, long waits for council housing, low paid jobs and so on. Then it occurs to me, that for anyone under about 45, they don’t really know things any different.’

      Hi Desde – I’m not sure, things seem particuarly bad now, the early 90’s for someone in their early 20’s must seem quite different to being in your early 20’s today, especially the work situation, and that 1990’s cash in hand economy was booming!

  18. One of the things that amazes me about CiF is this number of posters who persist with the prejudice that China is a backward, third rate country, that produces nothing original and where half the population lives in dire poverty. (I could go on)

    I watched a lot of the Youth Olympics while I was pounding the running machine at my gym in China but I missed this bit which a friend in Australia sent me today.

    Apologies if you’ve already seen it, but there are few things that amaze me now, but this is certainly one.

  19. Paul

     /  October 18, 2014

    The xmas season will soon be in full swing and in Paris they’re really pulling out all the stops this year.

    Ho Ho Ho

    • Hi Paul,

      I might make a comment about the sex lives of the French but instead I’ll say it confirms my understanding of why BTTP’s wife and child ran away. :)

  20. brusselsexpats

     /  October 17, 2014

    See the Kurds are gaining the upper hand in Kobani. That must be agonizing for many of the Cif posters who would rather have seen the psychotic scum that is ISIS march to victory over a mound of severed heads than see the West – i.e. America intervene.

    Because – as we all know – America is the fount of all evil.

    The BBC asks on its website: What have we learned from the Battle of Kobani?

    I’d say the answer is clear – never yield to the butchers and give the moral imperative of saving innocent lives priority for once even if the Kobani is not “strategically important”.

  21. brusselsexpats

     /  October 17, 2014

    Morning all,

    Talking of demonstrations, what I posted about the pitchforks being oiled over here is coming out. All unions are calling for demonstrations and strikes on a rota basis, starting with Brussels on November 6 or 7. Thereafter a cluster of cities will do the same on different dates.

    All this culminating in a nationwide general strike on December 15. Don’t think the Belgian Federal government just sworn in is likely to last somehow.

    Re: China – it has a history of uprisings so I wouldn’t be surprised if, when a one-party government system finally gives up the ghost, there is some fracturing of the country.

  22. JimPress

     /  October 17, 2014

    A very quick comment on the situation in Hong Kong…

    Firstly, the protests have way more staying power than anybody (including the organisers) predicted. Secondly, and disturbingly for both the authorities and student leaders, the nature of the protest is becoming more confrontational and unpredictable. The original leaders had no role in the recent road tunnel blockade and tried, unsuccessfully, to dissuade people from taking part. Those same student leaders, the people who espouse a policy of total non-violence, were jeered and shouted down by their more robust Kowloon counterparts when they attempted to address the Mongkok faction this week.

    The Mongkok barricades were removed by police at dawn today but protesters remain at MK and Causeway Bay along with those at the main site in Admiralty.

    This is a more significant event than many originally identified and it’s encouraging that Beijing have cut the BBC News feed over the last 24 hours – if I was protester I’d take heart from that. Oh, and Leung CY politically is a dead man walking.

    • Hi Jim,

      Thanks for that and yesterday the BBC’s Thought for the Day which I usually avoid like the plague was about the situation in Hong Kong. Giles Fraser claimed that both the founders of the Occupy movement and most of the leading activists are evangelical Christians, which would add weight to what you’re saying. It’s the first time I’ve heard that. He went on to speak about “China’s rapidly expanding Christian population” about which I can personally testify, and that within 15 years China could have the largest Christian population of any country. He went on to speculate about how the Party would deal with this and then to point out the west’s less that pacific approaches of different Christian groupings.

      However thinking about it prompted me to consider how the Protestant ethic fitted in very nicely with the Chinese obsession with saving rather than spending. It’s reckoned that the “hidden wealth” in China is equivalent to the country’s total official GDP. And the “municipal pride” in the form of prestigious building projects that I’ve seen in every Chinese city I’ve visited, is comparable to that recorded in the town halls, art galleries, museums etc of UK cities like Manchester, Bradford, Leeds, etc.

    • Paul

       /  October 17, 2014

      Hi Bitey

      Interesting comment about the growth of Christianity in China and the response of the Party to that.From what i understand Catholicsim is only tolerated in China provided the Chinese Catholic Church isn’t controlled by Rome.And that Beijing is unlikely to tolerate any external influences on any Chinese religious participation irrespective of denomination.

      Have also read a bit about the persecution of the Falun Gong in China highlighting just how hard it is for any sort of participation in anything which doesn’t meet the approval of the State.

      I’m assuming that freedom of worship etc is less of a problem in Hong Kong and Macau but that Beijing may ultimately seek to try and change that.

  23. Hi all –

    got a call whilst doing paper round from the police officer – (as you do!) dealing with the complaint I made re abuse in NHS unit. He hadn’t read the entire report, which was quite long, and at review, realised there was more to it. We discussed it for a while and I asked about third parties who might know more but he explained that the main victim in one of the complaints I made, the most serious, would need to come forward for anything to happen. I said I would go to court re the man who was abusive to me but I understand it’s well nigh impossible but that I was seeking catharsis and the opportunity of making things ‘official’. The police officer said that in the Savile case, most of the girls didn’t feel safe to come out in the open and once they knew about others it was easier as they were not alone. Savile’s death also made them feel safer. Trying to take this to court when it’s one person’s word against another regarding events of 39 years ago is very tricky. He has been very thorough and says that if anyone should make a complaint it will automatically come to him as he deals with that patch. He did say ‘it sounds like a strange place’ of the clinic – you can say that again.

    It must be a helluva job dealing with child abuse and rape – I have many criticisms of the police but I couldn’t do that job. I could deal with the abusers themselves and listen to what they did and prosecute them but I could not view child porn especially films. Years in that job must wear a person down and presumably the officers aren’t kept in that division for too long.

  24. brusselsexpats

     /  October 15, 2014

    Afternoon all,

    Paul, it’s not bad enough that UK state pensions are rock bottom compared to other wealthy European countries but you can bet that anyone on the wrong side of fifty who couldn’t get a job would be persecuted into a life of Dickensian poverty.

    • Paul

       /  October 16, 2014

      Sadly i think you’re right Bru.As the post war baby boom generation retires-ie those born between 1945-1964-i think we’re going to see a big increase in pensioner poverty in the UK unless more people in their 50’s/60’s not only stay in jobs but are also paid enough to make provision for when they’re too old to work.For as you say state pension provision is relatively low in this country.And many elderly people are also too proud to claim the means-tested benefits that are available to them.Much of the estimated £2-£3 billion worth of benefits which go unclaimed every year are old-age benefits..

      Anyway on a happier note here’s a track from Grant Green.

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