Watching the Untrusted Implode II

 

Spring Azaleas, Black Dragon Pool Park, Kunming, Yunnan Province, China, March 2017

” An assault on an ideology is not merely different from a threat made to a person; it is the opposite of a threat made to a person. The whole end of liberal civilization is to substitute the criticism of ideas for assaults on people.” – Adam Gopnik

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There is something wonderful in seeing a wrong-headed majority assailed by truth.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Welcome to The Real Untrusted

for a brief introduction to this site – read here

“The citadel of established practice seldom falls to the polite knock of a good idea. It may however yield to a long siege, a pre-emptive strike, a wooden horse or a cunning alliance.” 

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Why I am voting Leave the EU is now here

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I’ve posted Photographs 30  –  all of which have been displayed on the front page recently and are now all together for those who might have missed them first time round.

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End of You Tell Us – 28 January 2015

“Today is the last ideas thread. From tomorrow, we won’t be running these threads any more. We still really want your ideas for articles, but we think the best way to do that will be to have a dedicated email address for people to send in suggestions. That is being set up asap. The editor of Cif, Kira Cochrane, will be running a talking shop tomorrow to explain more, but when this thread closes tomorrow there won’t be a new one. I know this will be upsetting for some, but please bear with us while we make some new changes to the site.”

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 Today’s Music

Purcell – Dido & Aeneas – When I am laid in earth (Dido’s lament)

Tomaso VITALI : CIACONNA “Parte del Tomaso Vitalino” – Clematis – Stéphanie De Failly

 

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In the beginning……….. How the CiF rebels turned hypocrisy into an art form-  is now elsewhere  – making comments posted here easier to access – I hope.

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  1. lambda

     /  March 23, 2017

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  2. Brantano shoe retail chain have gone into administration. Body Shop is another well known shop struggling and may not last much longer.

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    • V V 1950

       /  March 22, 2017

      And Marks & Spencer, Desde…
      My mother’s beloved M&S on Avenue de la Toison d’Or in Brussels will close their doors in September, and 126 people will lose their jobs.

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      • It’s the same in China with whole rows of shops with the shutters up as increasing numbers of people buy online. Even the courier companies are going bust having raced into what the owners saw as a golden opportunity to make money, only to discovers that dozens of others had the same idea and probably went about it with the same negligible planning.

  3. Paul

     /  March 22, 2017

    We’ve talked here about the fact the once flourishing Jewish communities of the Middle East ,outside of Israel,are now almost extinct.Well the exodus of Christians from the region is now gathering pace.

    The following article from the Independent looks specifically at the case of Iraq where some say Chrisitianity is in terminal decline.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/christianity-iraq-finished-says-vicar-baghdad-a7643191.html

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    • V V 1950

       /  March 22, 2017

      I am aware of that, Paul.
      Among my Iraqi refugees there’s a young Aramaic man from the Saint Joseph Chaldean Catholic Church.

      He says there are no Christians left in Iraq, they have all been killed or fled the country…

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    • V V 1950

       /  March 22, 2017

      From your link

      “I tried to invite some of the Isis jihadists to dinner once.
      They told me they would come, but that they would chop my head off afterwards.
      I didn’t think it would be a nice way to end a dinner party.”

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  4. V V 1950

     /  March 22, 2017

    Parliament attack: man shot after police officer stabbed at House of Commons – live updates | Politics | The Guardian

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2017/mar/22/peers-say-brexit-with-no-trade-deal-would-cause-signicicant-damage-to-service-sector-politics-live

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    • Hi VV,

      Caught that around midnight here and I read the usual suspect is in the frame.

      Steve Bell has an incredibly insensitive “cartoon” in the Guardian using the abbreviation for the kind of abusive remark I usually associate with the more crude BTL posters.

      And Cage Prisoners were quick off the mark ascribing blame on UK policies.

      I suspect that from now on all police on duty at Westminster will carry fire arms.

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  5. V V 1950

     /  March 22, 2017

    A Minute Of Silence

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  6. brusselsexpats

     /  March 22, 2017

    And talking of terrorism, outside the office building the king is talking following the unveiling of the memorial to the victims of last year’s attacks in Brussels. Juncker, Tusk and most of the Belgian government are present. Invitations otherwise were for families and surviving victims only it seems.

    Security is draconian and we are not allowed in or out of our office building until 13h00 even with a security pass. Unusual memorial, rather modern and not sure it fully reflects what happened but that was also my strong impression of the Holocaust memorial in Berlin.

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  7. brusselsexpats

     /  March 22, 2017

    Morning all,

    Very sensible comments here on the death of McGuiness. The Tories are frothing at the mouth as usual without ever admitting British guilt in the Irish question. The BBC would do well to produce a documentary, in several parts, charting just how England managed to wreck Ireland from the 17th-century onwards, and how in modern times the atrocities committed by the Black and Tans must have been the biggest recruiting agent ever for the IRA. Such episodes are not easily forgotten.

    Historic differences matter. We know from the former Yugoslavia how they can lead to unbridled violence and even civil war.

    I often wonder how many Middle Eastern children will grow up angry and radicalised thanks to interference from foreign governments.

    Is anyone else appalled by the thought of calling a Commonwealth reboot Empire 2.0? What next? Referring to the Aussies as convict deportees? I do wonder what planet Westminster lives on.

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    • Paul

       /  March 22, 2017

      Hi Bru

      It says something about the mentality of the Tories that they thnk that any post Brexit loss of trade with the EU can be made up with increased trade with the Commonwealth.For they seem to have forgotten that this country sold many of its Commonwealth trading partners down the river when it first joined what was then the Common Market in 1973.And since then Commonwealth countries have moved on and forged new trading links elsewhere.

      I think the Tories are going to learn the hard way just how much things have changed when they realize they can’t just click their fingers and expect the Commonwealth to fall into place.It just ain’t gonna happen.

      If the UK -or what’s left of it post Brexit–wants new trading agreements with Commonwealth countries those Commonwealth countries are going to prove to be tough negotiators and put their own interests first.And that’s how it should be because they don’t owe this country anything.

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  8. lambda

     /  March 22, 2017

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  9. Paul

     /  March 22, 2017

    A dimension to Northern Irish sectarianism i knew nothing about until tonight is the fact some Unionists openly fly the Israeli flag in support of Israel whilst some Nationalists openly fly the Palestinian flag in support of the Palestinians.

    I’m guessing this is more to do with Unionists and Nationalists using the I/P conflict to snipe at each other more than anything else.But the following documentary made in 2012 looks at the phenomenon through the eyes of an Israel Jew who always dreamed of living in Britain and now lives with his wife in Belfast.

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    • JimPress

       /  March 22, 2017

      The flag flying is the preserve of Loyalists and Republicans rather than Unionists and Nationalists, but yes, you’re right, it’s more a twattish than political thing.

      Having said that, the IRA did have direct links with the PLO. The Loyalist allegiance to Israel is a total sham, given their links to racist and anti-semitic organisations like C18.

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      • Paul

         /  March 22, 2017

        Hi Jim

        The flag flying is the preserve of Loyalists and Republicans rather than Unionists and Nationalists,….

        Interesting you make that distinction.

        I said some Unionists and some Nationalists because i wasn’t sure whether there was a clear distinction between Loyalists and Unionists on the one hand and Republican and Nationalists on the other

        I get the fact that Loyalist = Paramilitary and Unionists =Political whereas Republican =Paramilitiary and Nationalist=Political but can you honestly say those distinctions cut clearly throughout both communities ?

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      • JimPress

         /  March 22, 2017

        Historically, those distinctions have been very important. Post-ceasefire, possibly less so within the Catholic community, but even today if you referred to a ‘respectable’ Unionist as a Loyalist they would bristle with outrage.

        Despite having a really convincing and liberal political stance, the PUP has never been able to tap into the middle-class Unionist Prod vote because of the perception that they’re the party of Shankill Loyalists. These identities still matter.

      • Paul

         /  March 22, 2017

        Fair enough Jim.

  10. JimPress

     /  March 21, 2017

    It’s interesting watching the coverage of Martin’s death on UK TV news.

    It feels as if Downing Street has heavily leaned on the BBC and Sky News to heavily spin the notion that, more than anything, he was a man of violence. Which he was, but that was only part of him. In a different time and a different place, he almost certainly would have lived an entirely law abiding and peaceful life. It’s worth noting that while in prison, IRA volunteers spent their time reading books and discussing politics, while most of their Loyalist counterparts were in the gym bodybuilding and plotting their subsequent careers in drug dealing.

    I’m from the bodybuilding and drug dealing side of the wall, but Martin is an immense loss. The only comparably Northern Irish politician of his generation is the equally compromised (in terms of past violent history) DUP politician David Ervine. Both dead far too young and both badly missed.

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    • JimPress

       /  March 21, 2017

      Too many ‘heavilies’ in that. Why do we only notice repetitions after we post?

      Anyway, even my mother, from the absolute Prod heartlands is upset at Martin McG’s early death. She knows full well what his past is, but totally understands what led him into the IRA. She’s also touched and pleasantly surprised by Paisley Jnr’s tribute to Martin – she, like me, always had him down as a sectarian weasel.

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    • Whilst listening to the repeated ‘if not for McGuinness then a lot of people would be alive’ repetition in the media yesterday, I thought, if not for the oppression that existed in the late 1960s, McGuinness would have lived an ordinary life. He wasn’t even from a radical nationalist family as Adams is.

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