Watching the Untrusted Implode III

The Vaults beneath Waterloo Station, London

Watching the Untrusted Implode III


“There could be a smugness to irony … You woke up one morning and no longer knew if your tongue was in your cheek; and even if it was, whether that mattered any more … ”

Julian Barnes – The Noise of Time


Britain’s middle-class Brexit Anxiety Disorder

For Britain’s pro-European middle classes, Brexit is akin to a psychological trauma which has left many unable to behave rationally, according to two leading experts. Far from being hyper-rational observers concerned only with what is economically sensible, many have morphed into the “Remainiacs” of Brexiteer disdain.

They are acting no differently to what psychologists would expect from those suffering from chronic anxiety caused by loss of control and insecurity, Dr. Philip Corr, professor of psychology and behavioral economics at the University of London, and Dr. Simon Stuart, a clinical psychologist, told POLITICO.


From the Observer:

Legal aid cuts, and rise in digital evidence and sexual abuse cases affecting profession, says CBA

The Observer 6 May 2018 reports that Self-employed barristers with a tendency to take on whatever work came their way could end up handling back-to-back cases involving allegations of a serious sexual nature for months.

Is this any surprise given this sample?

BeautifulBurnout – calling Bitey a paedophile; – frankly, it is fair comment

BeautifulBurnout is Judge Anthony Pitt also a paedophile?

HankScorpio, BeautifulBurnout, Backtothepoint and Paedophilia

How False Accusations by the Untrusteds have allowed the guilty to avoid detection

BeautifulBurnout and Backtothepoint – 7/7 London Transport Truther Conspirators


” An assault on an ideology is not merely different from a threat made to a person; it is the opposite of a threat made to a person. The whole end of liberal civilization is to substitute the criticism of ideas for assaults on people.” – Adam Gopnik


There is something wonderful in seeing a wrong-headed majority assailed by truth.

John Kenneth Galbraith


Welcome to The Real Untrusted

for a brief introduction to this site – read here

“The citadel of established practice seldom falls to the polite knock of a good idea. It may however yield to a long siege, a pre-emptive strike, a wooden horse or a cunning alliance.” 


Why I would have voted to Leave the EU is now here


I’ve posted Photographs 33  –  all of which have been displayed on the front page recently and are now all together for those who might have missed them first time round.


 Today’s Music

Will Butterworth Trio – Hereafter

In the beginning……….. How the CiF rebels turned hypocrisy into an art form-  is now elsewhere  – making comments posted here easier to access – I hope.

Leave a comment


  1. brusselsexpats

     /  October 18, 2019

    Afternoon all,

    Hi Paul,

    Juncker may have been hitting the red too hard because both Tusk and Merkel now have said that an extension will be granted if the deal doesn’t pass though this might be if an election or second referendum is held.

    Brexit the gift that keeps on giving……

  2. pbj2

     /  October 18, 2019

    A very early good morning to everyone.

    It looks like everything will come to a head on Saturday regarding Brexit. The EU have said there’ll be no further extensions to Article 50 after 31 October 2019 so the choice we have is either Bojo’s withdrawal which many think is worse than Theresa May’s deal,no deal or we revoke Article 50 and stay in the EU.

    Sadly I think we’re headed for no deal which is
    the worst possible deal open to us.Hopefully i’ll be proved wrong but i’m not holding my breath.

  3. brusselsexpats

     /  October 17, 2019

    Afternoon all,

    Hi Desde,

    Yes I can never understand why people today find it normal to whiz off to somewhere like Thailand for a few days to attend a wedding. Cheap flights are getting out of hand.

    In my day you couldn’t even get to a Communist country without jumping through hoops and far-flung travel was way too expensive just for the flights, so holidays were necessarily much nearer home than today.

    However given my tendency to pick up viruses when in a strange environment, it’s definitely Europe for me and the cleaner part of Europe. I swear by the Germanic countries like Austria, Germany and Switzerland for hygiene.

  4. Yesterday I travelled on a train from Sheffield at morning commuter time – terrible experience. First of all the ticket machine wasn’t working and we were concerned about getting fined and then the train was late. Only 2 carriages at peak travelling time and the train was very old with bus type seats and it shook and rolled a lot. It was packed to bursting and there were still more passengers getting on as I reached my destination. How commuters can stand this every day is beyond me.

  5. Unless you can read Mandarin this won’t mean much but the photos show literally a dog’s house costing 30k RMB (about £1200) complete with swimming pool, dry room and television room.

    • Jack Roth

       /  October 16, 2019

      Was surprised to see Channel 5’s Peppa Pig there, but then came across this on Wiki –

      Peppa Pig is popular with mainstream China, and has been featured by official news media such as People’s Daily, and even endorsed by People’s Liberation Army,_controversy,_concerns_and_influences

      • Peppa Pig endorsed by PLA? Strange.

      • Hi Jack,

        I asked around but no one really knew why although wiki also says:

        In early 2019, to celebrate the Year of the Pig, the 81-minute animation/live-action film Peppa Pig Celebrates Chinese New Year was released in China. Before the film’s release, a five-minute live-action promotional trailer went viral on social media in China, garnering a billion views and being re-posted by numerous state media outlets. The film opened on 6 February 2019, and made US$14 million in the first three days.

  6. brusselsexpats

     /  October 16, 2019


    That’s always been my problem when considering travel to regions with iffy hygiene standards. I’m sure I’d return with some horrible lurgy.

    It doesn’t have to be as far as China, which does have a bad reputation, Years ago a colleague of mine holidayed in Tunisia with a friend, who contracted hepatitis from swimming in the sea (sewage problem apparently), and died on her return to Belgium despite having the best of medical treatment when she got back.

    Another colleague contracted a serious problem with an intestinal parasite after a holiday in Egypt. Curse of the Kings. It took months to get her better and she needed hospital treatment.

    It’s that kind of thing that tends to keep me in my comfort zone for holidays.

    • Hi Bruss

      Hope you’re doing better now and recovering. I know what you mean about travelling and illness because asthma has always been a problem on holidays. Even in this country I have had difficulties when wheezing has begun. It doesn’t bother me not going to far-flung places as they have never appealed to me. Apart from the glaring issues of human rights abuses in many nations there are also issues of long flights adding to pollution and environmental damage etc.

      An acquaintance of mine has been to Sri Lanka and plans to go to Vietnam. She said the poverty in Sri Lanka was quite a shock and the infrastructure is neglected. Bit obvious I would have thought. Another acquaintance tells me his aunt went to Singapore with her partner – cost of several thousand. She’s an ordinary woman, was a coffee shop manager not someone who inherited wealth. It continues to amaze me that Britons spend fortunes travelling yet don’t want to pay for social care or desperately needed better cancer survival rates. Many will complain about a less than luxurious hotel but tolerate hospital wards crammed with 12 beds. A poster on the Guardian put it well when they said that no politician has the guts to tell people that they can’t continue having such a good material life and lots of holidays if they want to be looked after when needing care at home or having a decent health service.

      • It’s a good post Desde and the only thing I’d disagree with is the “not wanting to pay for social care” as I recall surveys indicating the opposite. Whether once put to a vote this would hold up is another question.

    • Hi Bru,

      Yes you’re right and my worst ever experience was in Jordan. And once in Nepal on a trek, one of the Sherpa guides carried an Australian woman on his back for six hours over a 4000 metre pass. Hi Bru, Yes you’re right and my worst ever experience was in Jordan. And once in Nepal on a trek, one of the Sherpa guides carried an Australian woman on his back for six hours over a 4000 metre pass.

  7. brusselsexpats

     /  October 16, 2019


    I can see a time when spies will go back to the old days – everything by word of mouth and notes dropped in park bins…..

    It’s getting more and more difficult to avoid detection otherwise.

  8. brusselsexpats

     /  October 16, 2019

    Morning all,

    Thanks Bitey,

    Part of my problem is that I grew up in the industrial North of England till I was twelve and regular bronchitis was a way of life for so many at that time. That’s why I feel for children today who live in very polluted areas though this is probably more down to high traffic volume nowadays. In my day not much notice was taken of this problem. And people smoked like chimneys.

    I can imagine in China you would come up against viruses, maybe due to lack of hygiene as we know it in certain parts.

    • Hi Bru,

      Yes lack of hygiene is a real problem. The number of times I’ve been in the loo in a restaurant and one of the staff has come out of a cubicle and walked out without washing their hands. Then there’s the communal eating from maybe a dozen dishes on the table, so that chop sticks go into the dish, into the mouth and then back into the next dish and so it goes on. As for the spitting.

      Coming back from the gym I have to cross a six lane road junction with traffic lights and for the first time I can remember there was a policeman in the centre of the road making the riders of electric scooters which can reach 50km an hour, get off their scooters and push them while pedestrians were crossing on the “green man”. Usually they’ll just drive through the pedestrians.

    • I got a bad stomach upset in Morocco and don’t want to risk anything like that again.

  9. And I’m not a fan of conspiracy theories but for the first time ever, when I tried to post the previous comment, it wouldn’t go and at the bottom of the screen was the word error in a tiny font size. Re-booting seems to have sorted out the problem. 🙂

  10. Edward Snowden who’s no doubt enjoying life in Moscow, has written in the Guardianthe US government, along with the governments of the UK and Australia, is attempting to undermine the only method that currently exists for reliably protecting the world’s information: encryption. Should they succeed in their quest to undermine encryption, our public infrastructure and private lives will be rendered permanently unsafe.

    We used to be advised never to put anything in an email that you wouldn’t write on a postcard and by and large I follow that advice. I find it annoying that increasing numbers of organisations now refuse to accept or send emails. This meant that while sorting out my late mother’s estate – three small bank accounts with just over £2k in total and two unit trust investment accounts worth a low five figure sum which got smaller in the two months the companies refused to release the cash, I was forced to resort to snail mail and visits to the post office to pay for “signed for” delivery.

    According to Lifewire:

    Over half of the world population uses email in 2019.

    The number of worldwide email users is expected to grow to over 4.3 billion by the end of 2023.

    The total number of business and consumer emails sent and received per day will exceed 293 billion in 2019 and is forecast to grow to over 347 billion by the end of 2023.

    I have experience of state interference with my online activity which for obvious reasons I won’t go into here, but I couldn’t believe that encryption doesn’t limit the convenience of sending emails. So I looked it up and here it is:

    It’s simply not that simple

    To use email encryption successfully your recipient will need compatible software. You will need the public key of people you want to communicate securely with, and if they want to send you secure emails they will need your public key. While that might be fine for sending regular emails to a close business partner, it’s impractical and time-consuming for a lot of the communicating you’ll do. In these situations arranging a telephone conversation or even a face-to-face meeting could be a better option.

    Not everything is secure

    While the text within your email is secure the header information is not. People may still be able to see who you’re emailing and the subject. You’d think this wouldn’t cause too many problems, but it could still give an insight into your business that you’d rather other people didn’t have.


    Don’t sleepwalk into a security disaster – ‘it won’t happen to me’ are so often the last words of the entrepreneur that leaves it all to chance. Take control of your future by making sure nobody else can take a look at the most important parts of it.

    And presumably if the state detects that you’re using encryption they have the option of coming and knocking on your door and not that long ago they did.

  11. brusselsexpats

     /  October 15, 2019

    Evening all and thanks guys for the best wishes.

    I went to my GP who told me that I had bronchitis with the beginnings of pneumonia in one lung, so essentially bronchial pneumonia. He’s given me antibiotics that I’m sure they use on horses but they are very good and I only need to take one more, after which I should be infection free. I already feel a lot better.

    It’s not the first time I’ve had a major lung infection, With the last one I was sent as an emergency to a private X-ray centre. Strange as I’ve never smoked in my life. Still as I seldom take antibiotics they do the trick when I do get them down me. I’m off work for the week but can go out as of Thursday provided it’s not freezing;

    I probably won’t be around much for a few days so wishing you all the the fun of Brexit…..
    (I’ll get me coat).

    • Sorry to read about your ailment Bru but good news that the antibiotics are working so well. You’re right about smoking and air pollution being one of the causes of bronchitis and related lung infection, but it’s also a viral infection and most times I’ve visited a new part of rural China I’ve come away with a lung infection, presumably from a virus I’ve come into contact with for the first time. I’ve never had to resort to antibiotics but sometimes it’s taken several months to disappear completely.

  12. Jack Roth

     /  October 15, 2019

    I can’t understand the glee that some are taking in the murder of the paedophile Richard Huckle – he has now escaped his misery into death.

    As he would never have been released from prison – I would have liked him to live to be a hundred.

    • Evening all.

      Huckle should have been safe in prison so there must be security issues.

      I wish people would stop using the term ‘paedophile’ as it has no legal standing and is a psychiatric term not a crime. Huckle could only have been convicted of sex crimes against children.

  13. brusselsexpats

     /  October 12, 2019

    Evening all,

    Silent partner this evening as I’m struggling with a bad cold. Didn’t feel it coming till it hit me like a brick. Oh well an opportunity to look at old TV programmes on by iPad. All the old spooky thrillers.

    Have a good weekend.

  14. Robert Forster has died. He was great in Jackie Brown – a very soulful, brooding role.

  15. Good morning again.

    There was a programme on Radio 4 recently about prison courses and therapy for sex offenders and other inmates. It was shocking to learn that prisoners who hadn’t undertaken the programmes had a lower rate of re-offending than those who had. The government has covered this up and a member of staff who tried to raise the issue publicly was reprimanded. Prisoners have considerable pressure put on them to take these courses and those who do, get an earlier release. They include subjects like anger management, cognitive thinking and all kinds of other stuff – prisoners routinely take half a dozen of these courses.

    One prisoner, Noel ‘Razor’ Smith was saying he’d done a load of courses and they’d done nothing to change him; in fact the Forward Planning course he took helped him commit a crime with another offender. He says the only way forward is proper education to give prisoners a chance of a job outside. Some commentators said that some people can’t be rehabilitated, particularly some sex offenders – some of the latter learn how to manipulate the programmes to make it look as if they’d changed. Some use therapy to learn other ways of offending and to get information on potential victims from other prisoners.

    Whilst I have been sceptical of these sex offender programmes for a long time and am angered that many sex crime victims don’t get help that the perpetrators are getting, many who were commenting on these programmes had faith in them initially but the follow-up is showing they don’t work. A family were interviewed whose daughter/sister was murdered by a released prisoner who’d done these courses and was supposedly rehabilitated.

    • Jack Roth

       /  October 12, 2019

      ‘ It was shocking to learn that prisoners who hadn’t undertaken the programmes had a lower rate of re-offending than those who had.’

      Shocking – is an understatement!


Leave a Reply to Anonymous Cancel reply

Please log in using one of these methods to post your comment: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: