Does Ally Fogg consider “honour Killing” something simply to ignore or dismiss?
Ally Fogg wrote a piece Slap-happy columnists and the dangers of generalisation about “the real dynamics of interpersonal violence, and particularly the complexities of how men react to violence, and female violence in particular. “
Having read the article which seemed to me to be a gift to the kind of misogynist men the world has more recently been made aware of, I posted the following, quoting first from the article:
“Notwithstanding the usual debates about rates of intimate partner violence, It is certainly true that for every woman committing a violent act, there will be several men. Male violence, in both prevalence and severity, remains the most pressing criminological trend in our society. To acknowledge that does not require us to simply ignore or dismiss female violence, whether targeted at men, women or children.“
Both before and after this statement you provide us solely with examples of female violence against males and provide none for the vastly more serious problem of male violence against women and other men. Where in the world does female violence against men compare in any way to what Robert Fisk describes here:
“Ms Jilani is a tough, brave lawyer with a harsh way of describing the “honour killing” – the murder – of young women. She has to be tough, given the death threats she’s received from Pakistan’s Islamists. She speaks with contempt for the families who murder their women – with even more contempt for the police and the judges who allow the killers to go free. Pakistan has the grotesque reputation of being one of the leading “honour-killing” countries in the world.”
And on a global scale:
“Yet this violence against women occurs in almost every country of the world and is increasing. In 2000, the United Nations estimated that 5,000 women were victims of honor killings each year. According to BBC, “Women’s advocacy groups, however, suspect that more than 20,000 women are killed worldwide each year.” Murder is not the only form of honor crime, other crimes such as acid attacks, abduction, mutilations, beatings occur; in 2010 the UK police recorded at least 2,823 such crimes. “
In the article he’d also written – “”Male violence, in both prevalence and severity, remains the most pressing criminological trend in our society. To acknowledge that does not require us to simply ignore or dismiss female violence, whether targeted at men, women or children.”
So what was his response to the crime of honour killing” and the related crimes that Robert Fisk describes?
To simply ignore or dismiss it with “It’s almost like it is a different discussion about a different issue.”