Feminism, Transgenderism and Ally Fogg’s Inconsistency
A very interesting article by Rupert Read which doesn’t start with the kind of hyperbole that has characterised this issue, such as Ally Fogg’s – “I think it is the most vile, hate-filled, bigoted rant I have ever read in either Guardian or Observer.” (He’s writing about Julie Burchill’s article by the way, not Tony Blair defending the second Iraq War).
Even the briefest of examinations of the comments left by men on feminist web sites will demonstrate the relative mildness of the insults in Julie Burchill’s article, such as those published here:
“You always remember the first time someone calls you ugly on the internet. I imagine — although it hasn’t happened to me — you always remember the first time someone threatens to rape you, or kill you, or urinate on you.”
“The sheer volume of sexist abuse thrown at female bloggers is the internet’s festering sore: if you talk to any woman who writes online, the chances are she will instantly be able to reel off a greatest hits of insults.”
Rupert Read writes:
“That there is a genuine, complicated question within Feminism about whether trans-women can or should in every or all respects be regarded straightforwardly as women (They don’t have periods, they don’t experience menopause; they chose to be (to become) women rather than having been brought up gendered female; etc. etc). It is complicated.”
And maybe it would be rather less complicated if he’d included in his “don’t haves”, – the joy and pain of pregnancy and the nourishing and nurturing of women’s own and at times other people’s children.
Last weekend I was away and missed the outrage that arose in response to Julie Burchill’s article in the Observer. I was not surprised, on my return, to find that Ally Fogg had written not one, but two articles on the subject. From his more recent I take the following:
“Just to be clear on where I stand, I think it is the most vile, hate-filled, bigoted rant I have ever read in either Guardian or Observer. It is as if she made a simple list of all the most offensive things one could say about trans people and wove them into a clumsy cowpat of prose.”
This is all well and good, but Ally Fogg, or Hetpat as he refers to himself on his blog is not reticent about dishing out the abuse when it suits him. Here he is abusing another of the Guardian’s feminist writers Bidisha
“If on the other hand she reveals that the politics and ideology underpinning her articles are more akin to the ravings of a paranoid fruitloop, then we’ll continue to engage with her articles on that basis.”
“I suggested that she spouts the ravings of a paranoid fruitloop not because she’s a woman, but because she writes paranoid ravings. I’m sorry, but someone who thinks that her interviewees don’t look her in the eye because they are all misogynists does come across as a paranoid and pretty loopy.”