Accusations of Paedophilia – Barristers, BeautifulBurnout should know better


Buddhist temple, Ta Gong, Sichuan Province, China September 2014

Accusations of Paedophilia – Barristers, BeautifulBurnout should know better

In the light of the recent report on Child Abuse I am reposting accusations that do nothing to assist the police and child protection bodies from carrying out their jobs.

BeautifulBurnout writes on The Untrusted:

But even in this day and age, adults excusing adults and accusing child victims of abuse is rife. Bitey whines and moans about people in the past calling him a paedophile, but, frankly, it is fair comment when you consider some of the stuff he has supported in the past – not just flying the flag for the teacher Helen Goddard when she was convicted and imprisoned for a sexual relationship with a female 15 yr old pupil, but also the disgusting comments he made in the Madeleine Martin case – the 39 year old teacher having a sexual relationship with her 15 year old pupil. Barbara Ellen wrote a completely wrong headed piece about it at the time

Barbara Ellen’s piece is here,  – and  – here is but one of the many posts of mine on that thread which demonstrates the mischievous highly unprofessional nonsense MrsB is posting:

Now would I have said that if I was arguing that she was innocent of any crime? Clearly she was found guilty and rightly so; it’s the complete lack of proportionality in the sentence and the pandering to tabloid outrage that I object to.

People are welcome to look at my posts on that thread and judge for themselves whether there’s anything I’ve posted there that supports paedophilia. As a barrister, MrsB will know that as the case involved a post-pubescent 15 year old student, the introduction of paedophilia can only be for sensationalist reasons. Indeed MrsB herself had agreed as much here:

“it isn’t paedophilia (that’s why I referred to hebephilia, which is a proclivity for pubescent teenagers”.

So to be perfectly clear, and for consistency, is BeautifulBurnout also calling Barbara Ellen a paedophile?

Later she screams at Barbara Ellen:

“Have you ever read any of the accounts of men who were “seduced” by older women when they were young? I summarise that your experience in this is limited to watching The Graduate”

Could it be that MrsB meant “surmise”?         Never mind.

And what are the accounts of “seduction” she provides as well cited evidence, of men who were abused when they were 15 years old?

Well they’re not in the report she cites – “Female sexual abuse of children: ‘the ultimate taboo’” by Michele Elliott.

This report states:

Eighty-three per cent of the women who could remember, said the sexual abuse started before the age of 5, 16% were between the ages of 5 and 10; 1% were between the ages of 10 and 15.

Fifty-five per cent of the men reported the abuse started before the age of 5;

35% were between the ages of 5 and 10; 10% were between the ages of 10 and 15.

The report doesn’t say if any were above the age of 15.

The male victims (N=320) reported that 82% of their abusers were related to them.

When a single perpetrator was reported;

96% were mothers; 4% were stepmothers. When two perpetrators were reported; mothers were abusers in 45% of the cases, along with sisters, grandfathers, and other males; 22% of dual abusers were stepmothers; and 33% were babysitters and family friends.

So the report isn’t about 15 year old post pubescent males being “abused” by 38 year old regular Christian church going teachers like Madeleine Martin, but almost exclusively about young children being abused by their immediate family.

Essentially, it’s totally irrelevant to the subject of Barbara Ellen’s article.

So what does it matter if the Bar Council’s representative on CiF can get some cheap acclaim from her admiring posters, all 458 of them?


Since BeautifulBurnout’s post were removed from the Guardian’s Comment is Free an impartial observer might declare – “the evidence has disappeared m’lud”.

%d bloggers like this: